being essentially optimistic, how would we focused, but with -- when the cameras were down and he was sitting alone, having a cup of tea or just reflecting, you could sense there was a little bit of sadness to him. >> sadness and a sense of the burden they had to bear as well. >> that is right. >> at this time, we remember stories. a story you already knew, that says something about how stories happen, that he went to london and to buckingham palace to see the queen and they expected him to stay for 30 minutes and he stayed for more than two hours. later, somebody with him, i guess, when he got a call from the queen and took the call and they talked on the phone, the story goes that when he hung up the phone and said, goodbye, your majesty, his friend turned to him and said, what did the queen say? she said, please call me a lizard.